whimsy ([info]lord_whimsy) wrote,
@ 2008-01-26 00:39:00
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VAUDEVILLIANS AMONG THE MARSHALL STACKS
I was always at odds with bombastic arena rock when I was young, or at least with its culture. Many of you may not remember when this wailing wall of whiteness held sway over mainstream popular taste, but it was big, loud and dumb as all getout--and, according to those who joined in the big-haired clamor, terribly fun.

Despite my impatience with its aggressive normality, I still grudgingly appreciated its more vaudevillian, slapstick aspects, as I also have with genres like garage, psychedelia, disco, and funk: the overstated stagecraft, the artfully calculated vulgarity, the unapologetic gimmickry, the schmaltz, the humor, the makeup, the stock personae, the costumes, etc. It made no bones about being pure escapism for hardworking people.

Even though I would rather have gnawed off every mole on my body (I'm a Celt, so do the math) rather than attend one of these odious fist-pumping denimfests, I've always felt that, at least in some sense, the dopey antics of these hairlequins were a damn sight more legitimate and generous than the brittle, priggish pretenses proffered by many of the willfully obscure, cryptic (you know--"important") bands I favored at the time--many of which, truth be told, took themselves far too seriously and now aren't even enjoyable enough to qualify as kitsch.

Of course, some of the 'underground' music of the time outstripped both ends of this spectrum, managing to be smart in a deliciously dumb way, thus ensuring its enduring appeal, at the very least as divinely enjoyable camp:

Despite the above being among my preferred flavors of rock hilarity, I still must tip my hat to its ostensibly less clever cousins. Chunklet has provided a particularly hilarious example of that comic busker ethic, stripped to its purest essence, as performed by one of its most notable (or depending on your perspective, egregious) practitioners.

So: what examples of latter-day vaudeville do you enjoy?

~W



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[info]19091977
2008-01-26 07:23 am UTC (link)
Like the Cramps, but even more contrived with more sugar.

Bright colors, explosions, fake violence, canned aggression.

White Englishman possessed by American Black queen

A caricature of a caricature of a caricature speaks to the children

A caricature of a caricature of a caricature speaks to the children, canned violence. etc etc.

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 05:00 pm UTC (link)
Fritz Lang Pierrot:

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 05:15 pm UTC (link)
Another Pierrot, exploiting the joys of treacly schmaltz:

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 07:23 pm UTC (link)
There was something very Borscht Belt about Dee Snyder that I liked. He never struck me as a rock guy--more of a song-and-dance man. His band's songs always sounded like showtunes.

I remember seeing a Stray Cats video very early on, annoyed and perplexed at the retro styling of it all, thinking "You can do that? Is that allowed?" Later on, there was a Stray Cats video with some girl in retro 50's garb holding a Pac Man ice cream. At the time I thought that was exciting.

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[info]murcury
2008-01-28 08:30 pm UTC (link)
Snyder is about a degree or two away from an off-Broadway production of "We're Not Gonna Take It!". I'm sure Tim Matheson is available. Dress the theme song up like "Shipoopi", and you've got a hit...

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[info]jermynsavile
2008-01-26 08:26 am UTC (link)
I'm old enough to have bought The Cramps first single on release as an American import but, even so, I never went to see them live. A year or so ago I put that right when they played London. A friend and I found ourselves quite possibly the only two people arriving at the theatre with our hair au naturelle and not wearing black. We were both searched by a bouncer at the door, and as he patted my pockets looking for god knows what he casually noted to a colleague over my shoulder "Looks like we've got an older crowd in tonight." Not one of my proudest moments really and, much as I enjoyed the concert, perhaps a warning signal that some pleasures in life have a sell-by date.

The bombast of rock is not something I find particularly appealing unless it is undercut by a sense of its own absurdity, and it rarely is. While I'm sufficiently self-aware to acknowledge that my own record of support for bands in the "willfully obscure, cryptic bands" category leave me slightly compromised in the taste and judgement department, my idea of hell would be being forced to attend a U2 concert.

Though, if concerts were like this I might enjoy them more. Go Ozzie go!



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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 04:07 pm UTC (link)
The bombast of rock is not something I find particularly appealing unless it is undercut by a sense of its own absurdity...my idea of hell would be being forced to attend a U2 concert.

Oh, I'm very much with you on both counts. There absolutely has to be humor and something that will confuse the sqaures.

I can't manage to muster any umbrage towards Ozzy. He's a bit like a dotty old lady now--the calm center of a cultural phenomenon I otherwise find completely abhorrent.

I can barely acknowledge U2's existence--tepid, pompous, worthy, bland.

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 05:05 pm UTC (link)
I have to revisit something you've brought up here, J--and that's the self-awareness factor. I think that's a very important distinction, in that many subcultures and genres become codified and ossify, losing sight of how absurd and arbitrary they are--even though those seminal figures who create the genre were very aware of the absurdity, and were just out to entertain and have fun.

(Which isn't to say they didn't think about what they were doing, of course)

Edited at 2008-01-26 05:22 pm UTC

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[info]jermynsavile
2008-01-26 06:10 pm UTC (link)
Yes, self-awareness is the difference between, say the New York Dolls and Led Zeppelin. I adored the former and can't really stand the latter. I think that many rock bands like, say, The Who started out with a sense of self-awareness and self-mockery, but the uncritical adulation that goes with the territory and the self-numbing that comes with massive drug use, burns that out of them. You start with this.

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And, after a couple of years of star-struck critics and sycophants telling you that you are an 'artist' and genius, you produce something like this.

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From baked beans to a baked head...

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[info]drhypercube
2008-01-26 11:08 am UTC (link)
Sweet zombie Elvis! I loves me some Cramps.

Braids:


Buster Poindexter et al.:


Also, Alice Cooper, baby.

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 04:40 pm UTC (link)
Lene Lovich! Haven't thought of her in years. Good choice.

I always think of Butch from the Little Rascals in heels whenever I see David Johansen. For that I remain deeply grateful. Thing is, the bands the Dolls spawned I just can't appreciate. It's that "lightning in a bottle" thing I suppose.

I fully admit a weakness for this sort of wonderful pop hokum:



Other greats of playful artifice who come to mind were Little Richard (gay black boy in loud suits and makeup touring juke joints in the 50's South); Thelonious Monk (his jigging and Chinese hats turned off the plodders); and Sun Ra.

In the beginning of what we'll call my Whimsy Years, I referenced these gents and promptly caught hell from dolts who assumed I didn't know what I was doing.

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[info]my_name_is_anna
2008-01-26 12:35 pm UTC (link)
I can't look at bands like this without thinking of the 'Bad News' episode of the Comic Strip, which I recommend watching if you can find it online!

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[info]schwarzbrille
2008-01-26 03:48 pm UTC (link)
Put simply, I'm a metalhead-turned-indie-rocker-turned-metalhead, so there's a great deal of absurdity involved in all of the music I love and have loved. The Flaming Lips, my favorite band ever, have a spectacular sense of theatrics, replete with cheerfully garish imagery like animal costumes, endless amounts of confetti, and fake blood - like a birthday party gone bad, and yet still hysterically, nihilistically joyful.

On the metal side of things, all one has to do is look at the heyday of Norwegian black metal and the bands still carrying on that tradition, with their gaudy black and white corpsepainted faces, ridiculous costumes, and copious usage of real animal parts and animal blood. It's more Grand Guignol than Vaudeville, but still a form of musical showmanship that's worth noting all the same.

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 04:49 pm UTC (link)
Let's not neglect the more deadpan theatrics though, which can also be just as funny and entertaining:



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[info]idletigers.wordpress.com
2008-01-26 05:19 pm UTC (link)
Quite right -- I was just going to mention Sparks, for the sake of the Ron / Russel dynamic, which is surely good Vaudevillean stuff...
Ross

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[info]darling_effect
2008-01-26 05:39 pm UTC (link)


"Brimstone In A Barren Land" is, perhaps, Danielle's finest moment. But I couldn't find anything online. Alas. It's always saddened me that her dealings with Sire Records in the US effectively killed her career. I met up with her once for a drink (years ago) and she seemed thoroughly disgusted with the music industry. (And is it any wonder?) Her work was too strange and multivalent to be dumbed down into palatable pablum.

Back to the Cramps for a moment... Improbably, I managed to rent Urgh! A Music War from my local Blockbuster when I was eleven or twelve. I do remember finding the Cramps —Lux especially— horrifying but ridiculously, fascinatingly so. Seeing the Cramps —not to mention Pere Ubu, the Au Pairs, Klaus Nomi, and X— absolutely shifted my world-view. It was my punk rock Holy Grail.

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 06:11 pm UTC (link)
I knew of Danielle Dax at the time, but was not compelled to really investigate. There was something there that made me suspicious--hard to put my finger on it, other than to say that on first impression it seemed a bit overcooked. I could be completely misreading her, of course. I am sorry to hear that she was treated so shabbily--an all-too common complaint among rock and pop veterans, sadly. Practically obligatory at this point.

The SoCal punk scene never really figured large for me, either--just seemed too geared for Regular Joes. I do remember seeing an interesting documentary on the LA scene some years ago, which was very funny at times. Fellow from the Germs was in it.

"The Modern Dance" is a wonderfully strange, bold album.

The Cramps remain the tallest band I have ever seen live.

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 06:21 pm UTC (link)
I think we both agree on how wonderful Pram is. Ditto for Spires in the Sunset Rise.

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-26 11:47 pm UTC (link)
Perhaps we might allow Lawrence the last word?

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[info]odin_za_vseh
2008-01-27 12:54 am UTC (link)
Off-topic, but you might enjoy this.

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-28 08:58 pm UTC (link)
Almost forgot this vaudevillian:

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hmmmm?
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2008-01-28 09:28 pm UTC (link)

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-28 11:17 pm UTC (link)
Yes!


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[info]knick_knack
2008-01-29 12:04 am UTC (link)
Not sure if they're exactly vaudevillan, but I've been wanting to see The Upper Crust for quite some time:




As an unrelated aside, the next time you're in Los Angeles area, I'd highly recommend a detour to The Museum of Jurassic Technology in Culver City

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[info]lord_whimsy
2008-01-29 01:38 am UTC (link)
I'm amazed it took anyone this long to post these guys! Sort of AC/DC kind of derivative stuff, but who cares--the silly spectacle of powdered wigs is the real draw here. One was a speechwriter for Clinton at one time, I believe.

But yes--these gents are in the grand tradition of garage rock gimmickry--a fine Vaudevillian/music hall descendant.

Read "Mr. Wilsson's Cabinet of Wonder", a book about MJT.

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